You’re not supposed to “Name” it, once you name it, you start getting attached to it, now put that thing back where it came from. (Thank you mike wazowski, monsters.inc)
breathe….
OK… calming down… then if we talk in parables and asides, (It is the only way I talk and does lead to immense frustration from people around me, but whattya gonna do, we’re all different?)
The British government, less than 60% of people voted, so at the moment we have a government that represents… perhaps 35% and this government will now claim to be representative of the British public?!?!?!? In what possible way?
We must all of us sureley have “Some” humility…
If I run a trans web site, and only 15% of the Trans community is part of my website, then my website is not wholly representative.
How would we know if we are a representative web site?
:Woah: are “you” seriously asking “me” that question?
OK, what if we had a national survey, asking people if they consider themselves Trans? wow… what, you mean ask people questions? Yes, I mean ask people questions, talk to them, be respectful…
:Waw: what weirdo concepts is this?
Good words atm are “outreach”, and Podcast.
I am 100% Tranny. Me and the Trans community do not see eye to eye.
The initial question is baulked, because it intimates that somebody may have a “Right”, and people need to earn rights, yes, even we do.
You go for your gun (ie:- call me a Tranny), but one thing you’ve got to ask yourself… do you feel lucky? (:RollEyes: now we wheel out Clint Eastwoods haha)
You’re not supposed to “Name” it, once you name it, you start getting attached to it, now put that thing back where it came from. (Thank you mike wazowski, monsters.inc)
The initial question is baulked, because it intimates that somebody may have a “Right”, and people need to earn rights, yes, even we do.
You go for your gun (ie:- call me a Tranny), but one thing you’ve got to ask yourself… do you feel lucky? (:RollEyes: now we wheel out Clint Eastwoods haha)
anyway, let’s dispense with the caberet,
If the Trans community is a group, like, let’s say “Gays” for example (& we do nowadays hear more about “The gay community” rather than “The gays”), so the gay community has now built up some considerate media and governmental representation, so when the Transgender community has that kind of representation, then we can ask the question again.
Today, if one trans person goes out and about dressed… & (This is important) & if they look decent, ie:- they pass, then they get called tranny, but it is in a light hearted fun way,
THAT DOES NOT EQUATE to somebody with little experience, stepping out and feeling comfortable with being called Tranny.
As a Trans community I would like to see so much work done on encouraging trans folk to be more open, this is stifled, often unintentionally because of the effects of “Body image”, buy what we wear, by what is considered acceptable wear, and we all might guess any further speil here, 70% womens fashion, men only wear trousers, and our self identity is not respected, only how we present ourselves, and with no real indicators from society, from mainstream culture that being m2f trans is acceptable, then the original question becomes null and void, when society represents the Trans community in a positive light, then this will be a whole other story, nay indeed, we probably shan’t even ask ourselves this question, much the same way as gay people can have a gay radio station.
When I was at school, many moons ago, being called puff/gaybo,
these terms carry so much other baggage, and really, from the beginning of the 80’s to the end, that decade saw some change in how we think, and this is evidenced in further cultural studies.
something of political correctness… but trans got overlooked? ignored? not the Big issue that gay was? ahhh.
I can only imagine anybody today finding the word “gay” difficult to deal with, in as much as it being “A word”.
So Tranny still needs to undergo that change, within the Trans community Tranny has become somewhat accepted, but step outside of the community and see, the problem is, the connotation that exists, “Tranny = sex object”, but this is a much bigger issue to do with equality for women and clearly we still struggle (as a society) to get our heads around it & if a man chooses to wear “Womens” clothing, it is because they wish to be used for sex (Unfortunatley loud mouth bullying culture ie:- certain “Newspapers”, film industry, lads mags, Womens mags!!!), so until “Being a woman” does not equal sex object.
Furthermore “Down with the patriarchy” as a lesbian friend of mine echoed my thoughts, until women stop being so secular :0 (This is my toned down version of this post).
I advise caution, I say that we don’t want to get 20 trannies who say Tranny is fine to use, when 980 quiet Trannies don’t want it to be used.
Honestly, I’m a tranny 100%
If you want honesty, The Trans community aides and abets certain mythologies, not least of all through stereotyping drag acts,
But we relent, I have no upset/anger towards the Trans community per se, but I would see it change and not be all about “A bloke in a dress”, we need to make it be about much more than that, but the Trans community I see is about Passing and about a ton of make up & wigs and overblown dresses.
Much bigger debates to be had, that will ultimatley swamp this debate and make it irrelevant…
I was at school in the 80’s, the decade when gays came out of the closet so to speak… well, gay was offensive, but now it’s difficult to use it in an offensive way (From my experience), to such a degree that we can have a radio station called Gaydio that doesn’t get shut down through hate mail/government intervention etc.
In 20 years we will look back at this and have a light hearted giggly chat about this…
Oh yeah, who can call me a Tranny? well, in all the excitement, you know what I forgot to check, but what you’ve got to ask yourself is do you feel lucky? (Prizes are awarded for picking up on cultural references ), so go ahead, make my day xx
(This is my 5th attempt at a reply, this is my most coherent and least offensive reply… I courtsey)